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Excessive rebound when deleting messages
Daniel G.
2018-02-18 12:05:04 UTC
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I have observed, in distribution lists like this one of mutt for example,
when a big number of messages are deleted at the same time with D,
the administrator of the list unsuscribes you due to an excessive
rebound. It happens even with already read messages.

With other mail clients, If you first read or open the message and then
delete it, regardless of the number of deleted messages no rebound
issues are found. But with mutt, the option D seems to be interpreted
as unread and deleted message, causing a rebound.

Mutt is my favourite and daily email client, but to clean read messages
from lists, I usually enter other client, mark as read and delete the
messages.

It is not a big problem, but I would like to understand the reasons
and find a solution to delete messages without rebounds.

Thank you all, and have a nice day.
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Daniel Gutiérrez
Cameron Simpson
2018-02-18 23:59:47 UTC
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Post by Daniel G.
I have observed, in distribution lists like this one of mutt for example,
when a big number of messages are deleted at the same time with D,
the administrator of the list unsuscribes you due to an excessive
rebound. It happens even with already read messages.
Then your "D" is doing something different from mine. Mine runs
"<delete-pattern>", whihc jst removes messages matching a pattern. That is an
entirely _local_ operation, removing messages from your mail folder.

The list admin and the list never know anything about it.

In the index view, when you type "?" to show the key bindings, what is "D"
bound to?

If you are getting other effects, your "D" key must be doing something else.
Post by Daniel G.
With other mail clients, If you first read or open the message and then
delete it, regardless of the number of deleted messages no rebound
issues are found. But with mutt, the option D seems to be interpreted
as unread and deleted message, causing a rebound.
Not normally the case. Please check to see what your "D" key is bound to.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <***@cskk.id.au> (formerly ***@zip.com.au)
Philipp Gesang
2018-02-19 09:15:52 UTC
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Post by Daniel G.
I have observed, in distribution lists like this one of mutt for example,
when a big number of messages are deleted at the same time with D,
the administrator of the list unsuscribes you due to an excessive
rebound. It happens even with already read messages.
Is it an IMAP mailbox? Then it could be the server sending RFC
3798 MDNs on your behalf.
Post by Daniel G.
It is not a big problem, but I would like to understand the reasons
and find a solution to delete messages without rebounds.
If the above guess is correct then it’s entirely up to the server
operator to suppress MDNs.

Best,
Philipp

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